Rotten Mango

S2026 · E1 · 3 jan. 2026

Man With EXTREME Fetish Beheaded Mid Climax In ‘Viral’ Video - Killer Taunts Internet To Catch Him Aflevering 1

“From today, I’m logging off this account for good.” This was a status update made to a small, personal Facebook account on June 10, 2025. Just a month later, the post goes viral amongst some netizens because the man who ‘posted’ this to his Facebook? He died 6 months ago. And thousands of those netizens had already witnessed his murder. They had seen the butcher knife slamming down onto the man’s neck over and over again. They call the killer the “butcher.” The butcher even took the time to pose with the man’s severed head in a mirror selfie. How do you post on facebook 6 months after your own murder? Is this post going to help people find the killer? And how do thousands of netizens witness a man’s murder? This is the case of the Vietnamese Butcher.

S2026 · E2 · 7 jan. 2026

Husband KILLS Wife For Denying Sex During Her Period Aflevering 2

SJ would be the next to die. At least that’s how it seemed to his worried sister in-law, Mimi. Sitting next to him in the hallway of the morgue and even through her own grief, she questioned his health; that if left alone he might take his life out of despair. SJ’s wife and Mimi’s sister, lay on a steel table in the room over, technicians actively cutting into her body. Mimi hoped this autopsy would tell them how her sister ended up dead inside of her newlywed home after just 3 months of marriage. SJ hoped they wouldn’t notice the light red markings on his wife’s neck but knew her cause of death would be revealed. So he starts building his ‘alibi,’ “You know…I’m someone with a very strong sexual desire-“ Caught completely off guard by his statement, Mimi just stares at SJ, “…What?” “I’m a person with strong desires, you know, but your sister would never let me touch her.” It likely didn’t take long for Mimi to consider that SJ dying next might not be all that bad.

S2026 · E5 · 4 feb. 2026

Former Reality TV Swinger Found Dead After Hiring Hitman to Kill Her Rich Husband Aflevering 5

The owners of the horse show, Valitar, are a wealthy, conventionally attractive couple called the Remley’s. Mark Remley is a little bit older. Perhaps nerdy, but the type of guy to get into peak shape later in life. Tatyana Remley is his wife with bottle blonde hair and a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model body. She’s also the main star of the Valitar horse show. The Remley’s invested over $20 million dollars into the show, just to lose every single penny of it after multiple scandals back to back. Allegedly, horses were abandoned with nothing to eat and massive creative differences led to performers quitting. Former staff members would come out to allege that Tatyana Remley doesn’t even know how to ride a horse that well… Later, the couple is featured on TV as a well known swinger’s couple, a pillar in the local sex-swinging community. That’s just a side quest though; the most scandalous thing that happened at Valitar was the decapitated horse head on the Remley’s marital bed.

S2026 · E7 · 15 feb. 2026

Woman Creates 'Sex Cult' In Silicon Valley That Runs On Investors, Orgasms & SA Victims Aflevering 7

Reese Jones is living every San Fransico tech guy’s wet dream. Create a company, sell it to Motorola for $205 millions dollars, and meet a hot, blonde girlfriend who doesn’t hold back in the bedroom. A lifestyle some would be jealous of even after Reese gets kidnapped. Three men jump out, blindfold him, force him into a car at gunpoint. Next thing he knows, Reese is being led through seven different rooms, representing the seven deadly sins. One is lust. Another is gluttony. Then, envy. Reese is bound to a chair while his girlfriend has intercourse with what is described as ‘a buffet of people.’ After all seven rooms, all seven sins, Reese is reborn. Which just means he’s now cloaked in white, standing on a rooftop deck while his blonde girlfriend waits for him in the distance: “Happy Birthday.” That’s what you get as a present when you’re worth $200 million dollars and your girlfriend is the founder of One Taste, a company that helps women meditate and reach an orgasm.

S2026 · E8 · 22 feb. 2026

3 Indian Sisters Jump To Death - Dad Claims They Lived In Fantasy World & Adopted Korean Identities Aflevering 8

The Kumar sisters, 16, 14, and 12 years old, do everything together. They eat together, they sleep together, they shower together. If one of them has to use the restroom, all three of them will line up like little ducks, and go to the restroom together. On February 4th, 2026, all three sisters will die together. A neighbor who witnessed their deaths thinks it looked like an accident. Their parents blame the girl’s addiction to their smartphones and specifically, their addiction to Korean pop-culture. The authorities don’t seem to disagree, but netizens can’t ignore the details slowly emerging. Reports stating the three sisters’ shared the same father and their mothers were biological sisters. Claims that all three sisters hadn’t gone to school and rarely left the apartment in over two years. And apparent proof that the girls wrote of beatings in their last, 8 page letter.

S2026 · E9 · 25 feb. 2026

Fertility Specialist Helps Couples Get Pregnant, Then Has Affair With Wives- Mysteriously Found Dead Aflevering 9

Everyone hears about pre-nups but what about post-nups? They’re drafted and signed AFTER two people are legally married and they’re typically much weaker when brought in front of a judge. For example, the following post-nups of a young couple in Hawaii will likely not stand up in court. It states that in the event of a divorce: the husband gets all the assets; their family home and full custody of their daughter. The wife gets nothing. Nothing besides two stipulations: She is permanently banned from visiting psychics nor can she ever, under no circumstance, see or speak to her fertility specialist ever again. The specialist is a local acupuncturist named Jon Takuhara who has helped multiple couples successfully conceive. What does Jon have to do with anything? And is it just a coincidence that two weeks after the couple signs their post-nups, Jon is found murdered?

S2026 · E10 · 4 mrt. 2026

"Puppet Master" Killer Set Up The Most Elaborate Murder Plan To Kill A Woman Aflevering 10

In the event of a break in, usually something of value is stolen from a house. But what if someone breaks into your home and steals a single, random item. Your hairbrush. Your pet’s ashes. Your family picture but leaves the frame. Your one spare house key? Daniel Krug, patriarch, calls the police after his wife, Kristil comes home and realizes that the spare key they keep hidden in their garage is missing. They could’ve just misplaced it right? With three young children at home though, the family doesn’t want to take any chances. Especially after Daniel, the father, remembers pulling into his driveway, before the key went missing, and saw someone jump their fence and take off running. If someone had broken into their garage, stole their spare key, and nothing else that can really only mean one thing right? They’re planning on coming back. Daniel reports it to the police and even gives his statement to the responding officer who visits his house.

S2026 · E11 · 11 mrt. 2026

Kidnapping Of 84-Yr-Old Nancy Guthrie: Who's The Man In Camera? Why Is Internet Pointing Fingers At Son-In-Law Aflevering 11

A woman dressed like Kanye’s wife, Bianca Censori, flips off the rest of the people surrounding the house, news vans & nosy neighbors, as they shame her for posing and taking pictures in front of the crime scene. The red brick house is home to Nancy Guthrie, who has been missing for over a month. Day one, day two, and now going on 30 plus days, the scene outside her home, where she disappeared from has been national news. And even with a million dollar reward, the head of the FBI getting involved over Twitter, the ‘president’ getting involved, there are still no solid answers. And when there are no solid answers, people tend to start creating their own… This is the case of Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance and suspected kidnapping for ransom. All the conspiracies, speculations, and rumors - including - is this case being used as a headline coverup to bury what else has been happening in the US?

S2026 · E12 · 18 mrt. 2026

Unpacking 3 Million Pages Of Epstein Files + Epstein’s Secret 2 Hour Interview Aflevering 12

One day before Nancy, mother of news anchor Savannah Guthrie, goes missing, the DOJ releases the largest, single dump of documents in the history of the Epstein case. Over 3.5 million pages. More than 2k videos. Approximately 180k images. A little over 24 hours later, Nancy vanishes and the internet starts connecting some dots, suggesting strings were pulled to ensure her disappearance monopolized the national news stage instead of the most recent Epstein files dump. Netizens cite Savannah Guthrie’s 2019 interview with 6 of Epstein’s survivors including Shante Davies who was pictured with the former US president Bill Clinton and the now late, Virginia Guiffre. The dateline special was Virginia’s first ever televised interview, where she sat across from Savannah and specifically implicated Prince Andrew in Epstein’s trafficking ring. So is the timing of Nancy’s disappearance just coincidental or is there something deeper at play?

S2026 · E13 · 25 mrt. 2026

Epstein Deposition: Everything Bill Clinton & Hillary Clinton Said in 8 Hours Deposition Tape Aflevering 13

One day before Nancy, mother of news anchor Savannah Guthrie, goes missing, the DOJ releases the largest, single dump of documents in the history of the Epstein case. Over 3.5 million pages. More than 2k videos. Approximately 180k images. A little over 24 hours later, Nancy vanishes and the internet starts connecting some dots, suggesting strings were pulled to ensure her disappearance monopolized the national news stage instead of the most recent Epstein files dump. Netizens cite Savannah Guthrie’s 2019 interview with 6 of Epstein’s survivors including Shante Davies who was pictured with the former US president Bill Clinton and the now late, Virginia Guiffre. The dateline special was Virginia’s first ever televised interview, where she sat across from Savannah and specifically implicated Prince Andrew in Epstein’s trafficking ring. So is the timing of Nancy’s disappearance just coincidental or is there something deeper at play?

S2026 · E14 · 1 apr. 2026

Young Woman Self Exits W/ Gun Longer Than Arms In Mayor's Home - 2 Yrs Later Another Girl Is Dead Aflevering 14

Two officers from the Kotzebue, Alaska Police Department enter a living room and ask the two small children watching SpongeBob, “Did someone call the police?” One just points to a bedroom door. Inside, a man, Anthony, cradles a young woman’s body drenched in blood. He says she’s his girlfriend, Jennifer. That he too, was just watching SpongeBob in the living room when he heard a ‘pop’ from the bedroom and found her with a ‘self-inflicted’ gun shot wound to her chin. An investigation begins. The rifle used measures 27 and 1/8th inches long from barrel to trigger. Jennifer’s arm is 26 and 3/16th inches long. Nothing comes of it. The medical examiner observes red strangulation marks around Jennifer’s neck. The investigation is over within one day. Jennifer’s death is declared a self exit. They don’t test for gunshot residue on the boyfriend, Anthony. They don’t look into his past record of abuse and SA.

S2026 · E15 · 5 apr. 2026

Influencer Hunts For Twin Lookalike On Instagram & Brutally Kills Her - But She Won't Say Why Aflevering 15

Mattheo is driving to a town called Nuremberg in Germany. A good friend of his is sitting shotgun and just as they’re driving past a local pizzeria, about to get onto the highway ramp, Mattheo spots something in his peripheral. He slams the brakes, his friend’s head almost hits the dash, and he pulls a U-turn as fast as physically possible. The moment the car stops, he’s out and walking straight up to a girl with long, dark hair standing in front of the pizzeria. She looks a bit skittish. Her eyes are giant as he stares back at her. He says the first thing he asks her is, “Are you dead?” She responds slowly, “I don’t know…” Then she bolts. Runs off. Mattheo jumps back into the car to follow her. She’s not supposed to be here. She’s not supposed to be anywhere. She’s supposed to be dead.

S2026 · E16 · 8 apr. 2026

"19 Kids" Parents Caught Son Molesting Underage Sisters & Just Sent Him To Church Camp ‘To Be Fixed’ Aflevering 16

The Covenant’s Eyes. A mobile app anyone can download whose purpose is to prevent its user from watching adult content. Around every 45 seconds, a screenshot is taken (yes, even if you’re in incognito mode) and gets sent directly to someone you know. Your wife, husband, father, etc., they’re called your ‘accountability partner.’ But what if the content being viewed is illegal? Depraved. Perverted. Corrupt. What if the content being viewed involves crimes against children? CSAM? Does it still screenshot and send the alert to the ‘accountability partner?’ Does it get sent straight to the authorities? Former reality TV star, Joshua Duggar is arrested for this very violation. This is the case of the Duggar family. The 2021 arrest of Joshua Duggar and the 2026 arrests of his siblings, Joseph and Kendra Duggar. Plus…all the potential crimes in between.

S2026 · E17 · 22 apr. 2026

2 More Duggars from "19 Kids & Counting" Arrested for Crimes Against Children Aflevering 17

Oprah Winfrey has just flown the Duggar family, in late 2006, from their isolated farm in Arkansas to Chicago. She covers all accommodations for mom, dad, and their litter of (at the time) 17 kids and counting in exchange for an interview. The Duggars are a well known reality TV family, iconic for their cult-like way of life. They looked like time travelers. A family plucked from the pre-electricity past and dropped in the middle of the big city. Before they can even start filming, an anonymous email in all caps, lands in one of the producer’s inboxes: “…YOU NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH… [REDACTED] HAS MOLESTED [REDACTED] WHILE [REDACTED] WERE SLEEPING AND THE PARENTS HAVE BEEN HIDING THIS SECRET FOR A LONG TIME…” Oprah takes the tip seriously. She cancels their interview and forwards the email straight to the authorities and a child abuse hot line. The email is later found to be sent by a [redacted] female. And not only that, the sender is right… At least 3 Duggars have been arrested

S2026 · E18 · 27 apr. 2026

“Pretty” 20-Yr-Old Girl Kills Her Dates For Being “Needy”, But Men Want To "Fix Her" Aflevering 18

Taxi drivers run the gamut of clientele outside motels but it’s a hotspot for business and this night-shift driver just lucked out. A very beautiful, 20 year old young woman, in a low cut top, climbs into the backseat. A smell hits the driver. She’s holding two giant take out bags of fried chicken. Great. A new, horrible air freshener. Suddenly she urges him, “Hurry! Go fast! I’m being chased! I’ll give you cash!! Go, go, go!” The driver steps on the gas out of instinct, frantically glancing back in his rearview. The woman leans back, takes a deep breath, snaps a picture, and then just starts scrolling on her phone like every other fare. Her demeanor seems relaxed now? The ride was different but not outrageous. Still, the driver doesn’t stop thinking about it. The fried chicken grease smell. The weird urgency and then the lack thereof. Was she lying about the chase so he would drive faster, getting her home before her chicken went cold??

S2026 · E19 · 3 mei 2026

All Of Teacher Haley Beck's 4,000 Grooming Texts, 'Sugar Baby' Deals & Sick Love Letter Aflevering 19

High school relationships typically end with everyone moving away for college, which is why ‘love’ letters like these are written. This was addressed to *redacted*, the quarterback of the high school football team. “..Even if we don’t talk all the time now or even @all when you’re in college, I feel like our little bond will always be there - so just hit me when you wanna go get wasted @ a bar together and I’ll send you my wedding invite one day…” “…how you wouldn’t get out of my car for like 3 hours…or all the random times you “fell asleep” on my couch just waiting for me to invite you into my room (lol)…” “...for this “relationship” being extremely wrong, I feel like we have really made the most out of it…I mean, you’ve been to my parent’s house…in their closet…insane.” “Like bro, you’re the 1st person that got me to smoke weed…Even though you never say it back, I love you + wish you all the best…Love, HB.” The letter never makes it to the quarterback.

S2026 · E20 · 4 mei 2026

FedEx Driver Kidnaps 7 Yr Old Girl After Delivering Her Barbies Then SA's Her In Back of The Van Aflevering 20

35 year old Tanner Horner, a delivery driver with a route in Paradise, Texas writes a letter to the police, “Detective, my family is in danger…” He goes on to claim that the pants in his backpack, although they do belong to the kidnapped and murdered 7 year old girl that recently went missing in Paradise, Texas, were in fact planted there. But that’s just one version of the events Tanner Horner confessed to the authorities. Detectives know it’s not true but how else can they find out what really happened to Athena in the last hours of her life? The true extent of his crimes will not be fully known until simultaneous audio and visual footage plays at his sentencing trial; his delivery truck had an interior dash cam that was recording the entire time. Will Tanner Horner be given life or be put to death? This is the kidnapping, SA, and murder of 7 year old Athena Strand.

S2026 · E21 · 10 mei 2026

Google Engineer Allegedly Punches Wife to Death…Then Never Speaks Again Aflevering 21

A cat feeder in California, meant to monitor Ivy and Tony’s two pet cats unintentionally captures the following events on camera. 12:21 am, Ivy walks into the kitchen and starts cleaning up. By 1:04 am, Ivy turns off the lights and heads to bed. 4:43 am and suddenly movement is detected. Tony, her husband, comes into frame with his shirt splattered in a deep red substance. He wanders out of frame only to return wielding a circular hand saw - the electric ones with a rotating blade and serrated edges made to cut two by fours. He’s tense. Rigid. The electric saw isn’t on but he has it pressed against his throat. The serrated blade is frozen. His finger hovers over the power button. All he needs to do is just. press. down. He pulls the saw away from his neck and walks out of frame again. The next time he’s caught on the pet feeder, one of his arms is completely swollen, drenched in blood. But Tony isn’t injured. So where is all this blood coming from? What has he been doing all night?

S2026 · E22 · 20 mei 2026

D4vd’s 50TB of Evidence: CSAM, Chainsaws, Burn Cage, Inflatable Pool & Body Bag Aflevering 22

You can buy a cadaver bag online, no questions asked. Though, most of the buyers make sense: a rural veterinarian, a hunter, maybe a livestock farmer. Just because you order a body bag on Amazon doesn’t mean you get put on some government watch list, right? Recently, people have been arguing for the opposite. Especially if a buyer is flagged buying an inflatable pool, two chainsaws, and a large burn cage, in addition to a cadaver bag. These were purchases made by David Burke, aka ‘D4vd.’ The same rising pop-singer whose Tesla was discovered to contain the dismembered remains of a 14 year old child. D4vd was just arrested, seven months after the Tesla discovery. According to California v. David Anthony Burke aka ‘D4vd,’ this is exactly what authorities say happened…

S2026 · E23 · 27 mei 2026

Everyone The Internet Believes Helped D4vd Cover Up His Crimes Aflevering 23

Two songs come out around the time of D4vd’s recent arrest titled, ‘Imaginary Love’ and ’S*x.’ However, these songs aren’t released by D4vd, they’re released by an artist with the stage name Cara Kova. Cara Kova is also known as Caleb Burke, David’s younger brother. And his second debut single, ’S*x,’ is released right after David is arrested and charged in the murder, dismemberment and SA of a 14 year old girl. Netizens have mixed feelings. Some just criticize the timing and title of Caleb’s release. Some disagree. That Caleb was states away from David and shouldn’t be judge by the actions of his older brother. But a few netizens believe everything in David’s case is just way too suspicious and even use forums to ask anyone associated with David if they were a potential accomplice in the killing of Celeste Rivas Hernandez.

S2026 · E24 · 1 jun. 2026

2 Teen Girls Planned to Slit Classmate’s Throat and Drink His Blood to Resurrect a Mass Killer Aflevering 24

After being yanked out of class and arrested on their high school campus, 15 year old Isabelle Valdez and 14 year old Lois Lippert are thrown into the back of a cop car. For 30 minutes the girls are caught on the car’s dash cam giggling and completely unbothered. At one point, Isabelle looks at her best friend, “Oh you trying to look good for your mugshot?” Lois excitedly responds, “Oh shit, am I going to get a mugshot?...This is such a bonding experience, I love it.” The girls are basically acting like they’re going to be able to go home at the end of their “side quest.” After all, the police arrested them before they could even carry out their plan to murder a classmate, right? Isabelle even comments that their plan was, “not a school shooting at least.” Lois agrees saying, “we’d be in prison for life.” The girls weren’t planning a school shooting. They were planning to stab and murder a classmate in a ritual they thought would resurrect an infamous elementary school mass killer

S2026 · E25 · 11 jun. 2026

17 Yr Old Mackenzie Shirilla Kills BF & Friend In Car Crash - ALL Her Private Snapchat Messages Aflevering 25

19 year old Davion Flanagan’s family and 20 year old Dominic Russo’s family want to know what the hell happened that morning. How could 17 year old Mackenzie Shirilla drive her car straight into a brick building at 100 mph killing their two boys? How could she be the sole survivor? This is the case of Mackenzie Shirilla who used a high speed, intentional motor vehicle collision to end the lives of her longterm boyfriend Dominic Russo and his friend/roommate at the time, Davion Flanagan. After the release of Netflix’s documentary, ’The Crash,’ interest surrounding the case grew but audiences were left with more questions about the fuller picture. Naturally, we FOIA requested this case to the authorities and received: Over 4 thousand videos. Over 4 thousand photos. Around 31 thousand pages of text messages. Around 92 thousand text messages between just Mackenzie and Dominic. Close to 800 text messages between Mackenzie and her father, Steve Shirilla.

S2026 · E26 · 22 jun. 2026

Everyone Who Stood By Mackenzie AFTER The Crash: Rosie & Bubba Interview Aflevering 26

19 year old Davion Flanagan’s family and 20 year old Dominic Russo’s family want to know what the hell happened that morning. How could 17 year old Mackenzie Shirilla drive her car straight into a brick building at 100 mph killing their two boys? How could she be the sole survivor? This is the case of Mackenzie Shirilla who used a high speed, intentional motor vehicle collision to end the lives of her longterm boyfriend Dominic Russo and his friend/roommate at the time, Davion Flanagan. After the release of Netflix’s documentary, ’The Crash,’ interest surrounding the case grew but audiences were left with more questions about the fuller picture. Naturally, we FOIA requested this case to the authorities and received: Over 4 thousand videos.Over 4 thousand photos. Around 31 thousand pages of text messages. Around 92 thousand text messages between just Mackenzie and Dominic. Close to 800 text messages between Mackenzie and her father, Steve Shirilla.

S2026 · E27 · 1 jul. 2026

Warm Milk, Foot Rubs, and White Claws: ALL The Texts Between Mackenzie & Dad Aflevering 27

S2026 · E28 · 3 jul. 2026

“Gay for the Stay” & “Trains Run on Her”: Inside Mackenzie’s Prison Dating Life Aflevering 28

Some of the best advice you’ll ever hear is simple: don’t go to prison. But sometimes, it’s unavoidable. If you do, the Ohio Reformatory for Women in Marysville isn’t what you’d expect, more like a college campus than a prison. Programs, classes, even freedom to move during three daily yard times. Yard time is where everything happens, fresh air, social life, information. It’s where people start whispering about the show they just saw. The one about 17-year-old Mackenzie Shirilla. The same Mackenzie walking the yard, full face of makeup, hair done, curls set, gems in her hair. That one? Killed two people. And now, one former inmate says, She’s in the bathroom getting trains run on her…

S2026 · E29 · 12 jul. 2026

From “I’m Going to Self-Exit” To “I Hope You Die in a F*****g Accident”: Mackenzie's Manipulation Aflevering 29

Mackenzie Shirilla killed two young men. A lot of people, including the courts believe that a part of Mackenzie’s motive was her longterm, hostile relationship with Dominic that he, supposedly, wanted out of. Mackenzie and her parents deny any intent at all. They go so far as to allege that Mackenzie and Dominic’s relationship wasn’t perfect but it also wasn’t that bad. We will be chronologically recounting their fights throughout the years and leading up to the murders. 30k pages of texts between Mackenzie and Dominic from 2020 to July 2022. Years of texts messages between a killer and one of her victims? Years of texts messages between two teenagers that ended in tragedy? Or a little bit of both?

S2026 · E30 · 19 jul. 2026

13 Year Old Realizes His Twin Brother Is A Killer In The Middle Of Interrogation Aflevering 30

A forensic DNA test usually scans about 20 fixed markers of DNA. It may take a few days but it’s enough to differentiate a suspect from the rest of the world with a near perfect level of certainty. Except for identical twins. It’s not a perfect analogy but think of DNA as a 3 billion letter book. Most people have about 20 chapters that are completely different. For identical twins, their entire book is identical except for about 8 typos. Not 8 different chapters, or sentences, not even 8 different words. 8 letter typos amongst 3 billion letters. The technology to find these is only available at a handful of labs and costs hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars. Thankfully, identical twin crime is rare. Except for Ohio. A woman who lives alone is raped and murdered in her own home, and the DNA left at the scene traces back to a set of identical twins. Two 13 year old boys are the main suspects but which twin is innocent? And which twin is guilty?

S2026 · E31 · 23 jul. 2026

16 Kids Kept In 12x12 ft Room Covered In Feces - Why Internet Thinks Mom of 16 Kids Is Also a Victim Aflevering 31

By 9:45 PM, the aggressively bright fluorescent lights inside a giant Dollar General are enough to give anybody a headache, especially if you’ve been there all day. Ariel would know. She’s worked there for two years, watching most of the town pass through her register. But one family stood out. They always came in just before closing, carrying a smell of cat urine, their children clinging close, hair hanging over their eyes, never looking up. The family always bought the same things: a jug of water… and a large bottle of vegetable oil. On June 29, Ariel rang them up like usual. The next day, she saw them on the news. Sixteen children, crammed into a 12-by-12 room, in what’s now called the Ohio “House of Horrors.” And one question lingers: what were they doing with the vegetable oil?